E-It is huge in new age circles. It is talked about in cabala, sacred geometry is in cabala. What sacred geometry proposes is using that knowledge that understanding of the basis structure of the universe…

K-Do you have that understanding of the universe?
E-Somewhat there are levels of specificity that you can go into. There are people who can use that knowledge once you understand; like sphere stacking and what structures exist you can use that in terms of nanotech to build things that can help benefit rather than be a detriment to society.

K-Is sacred geometry found in all cultures? Way back?
E-Yes, those proportions are reflected in every sacred structure on earth

K-When you were in Bali and Thailand you were really interested in different cultures art, and temples. Do you plan on incorporating that into your clothing?
C-Yes, we have started to go back through photographs it is a good place to get ideas.
We both take a lot of photos and end up working them into design ideas

K-The trash pictures, you took a lot of trash pictures when you were away, are

you going to do anything with the trash pictures?

E-Yes, eventually

K-Well that is a total social commentary, all the trash that is out there, and the plastic?
E-In Bali they burn their plastic, they have no resources for recycling. Bali is a tiny island people come through and bring all this trash. It is terrible you are on this pristine beautiful little island and it smells like burning plastic.

K-Yeah, you don’t hear about that in the books
C-It is happening everywhere that change that shift is happening

E-In Bali it is super extreme because it is such a tiny island. With such a small space those problems become evident quicker. That is maybe part of why there has been all the terrorist action there too, why there has been bombings. Because there is people in that vicinity who are part of the fundamentalist groups who are very against western expansion and see Kuta as being a prime example of what western expansion does to that portion of the world, to a culture.